While the Israeli army swells to some 200,000 plus soliders -- the refuseniks might not indicate a movement, but the impact of their compassionate dissent cannot be measured by their number (continued below).
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These are the words and thoughts of Matan Kaminer who is current on trial in military court for reufusing to serve in the Israeli army while the occupation conitnues, we'll spend much of this hour with Matan and his father, Noam.